Jesus: Is He God?
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(Psalms 2:12) Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
The Muslims teach that Jesus was a prophet like Mohamed and the Jews say he was (at best) a nice guy. What did Jesus teach and what does the Bible say about him and the Messiah?
Both the Old Testament and the New
Testament teach that the Messiah would be God and is God. The Bible
very clearly admonishes us that the only person who deserves worship
is the one true God.
(Jeremiah 25:6) And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.
(Exodus 34:14) For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
(Deuteronomy 8:19) And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the LORD thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.
In Isaiah we read the following which calls the Messiah to be the mighty God.
(Isaiah
9:6) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:7) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Also in the New Testament we have Jesus accepting worship from shepherds, a leper, a ruler, his disciples, a Canaanite woman and Thomas to name a few:
1. (Matthew 2:11) And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshiped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
2. (Matthew 8:2) And, behold, there came a leper and worshiped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.(Matthew 8:3) And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.(Matthew 9:18) While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshiped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
3. (Matthew 14:30) But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.(Matthew 14:31) And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?(Matthew 14:32) And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.(Matthew 14:33) Then they that were in the ship came and worshiped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
4. (Matthew 15:22) And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.(Matthew 15:23) But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.(Matthew 15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.(Matthew 15:25) Then came she and worshiped him, saying, Lord, help me.(Matthew 15:26) But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
5. (John 20:26) And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.(John 20:27) Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.(John 20:28) And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.(John 20:29) Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
6. (Matthew 28:9) And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.(Matthew 28:10) Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
And the angels worship him:
(Hebrews 1:5) For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?(Hebrews 1:6) And again, when he bringeth in the first-begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
In closing, I would have to say that if Jesus is not God, then he could not be a prophet because a prophet who accepts worship would be a false prophet, nor could he be a "nice guy" because again he would be a blasphemer and that is exactly what the Jews accused him of and why he was crucified.
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I have two problems with this hub. I will address each one.
My first problem is that you wrote, "The Jews thought He was (at best) a nice guy." The Jews hated Jesus. They wanted Him dead and out of their midst. They constanly tried to trap Him. (reminds me of Satan)
The second problem I have is in your poll. The word "was" should be changed to the word "is."
Other than those two things, I agree completely. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.
I also wrote a hub on this subject many months ago.
Ok, I'll change the poll..an error on my part. However, the question regarding the Jews...I did say "at best" and I also did mention that they crucified Him because they they understood that he said he was God. So I stand by that statement because many Jews today think he was "a good man".
I'm glad you liked it Vladimir
I always PRAISE GOD, our Lord God Jesus Christ, when I see His children truly know Him!!! So many out there do not believe Jesus IS YHWH!! Thus far, your poll shows all who've read know this truth. Hallelujah!! Bless your HEART, sister. I just love you so much...and our Lord does, too!!! You know Him and He knows you!!!
Thanks JD, I was just thinking about you this morning and wishing your were on the east coast!
We're together in spirit, sister!! I would so love to be there or you here. Much, much love ~ your SISTER FOREVER!!!
At least we'll be able to hang out in heaven someday.
I agree with you Brie, great hub and gets one to thinking of where we then stand.
Blessings
Isn't the Bible wonderful, everything is in there.
Brie...I like the way you wrapped it up...you used some verses that I planned to use in my Christian Survival Guide...nice to see the verses right there...without having to look them up.
Thanks Enlydia
Interesting Hub! I wanted to write something on this topic as well. I thought of the way, in conversation and writing writers sometimes skip from 'God' to 'Jesus', by also 'Son of God'. well I know that He may well be all three, isn't that amazing that everyone can know this truth now, because of the holy spirit and the gluing factor that none is actually apart or separated. Jesus also loved the sinners.
Nice Article.The picture has catchy colors. I invite you to read my page.
GTKY
Thanks GTKY, I will
Okay no God is not Jesus. God is God. You all are saying that God or Jesus was crazy. Ask yourself this question when Jesus was on the cross and he asked God to forgive them for they know not what they do he was talking to himself? or how about all the times Jesus prayed...was he praying to himself? Last what does the leper and all of those people have to do with anything? people are followers anyway and easily mislead. My point is God sent Jesus God is not Jesus. Please send all of your comments to my email if you would cixious@gmail.com
Brie, I hope you don't mind my sharing my hub link for USEURHEAD, if he'd like to read up on more explanation and answers to his questions.
USEURHEAD, I assume you're saved? I pray you let the Holy Spirit help you along in understanding the identity of Jesus Christ. He is Immanuel, God with us (Mat 1:23). He is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14)...so many revelations of this truth throughout the Bible. I would like to invite you to read my hub link here: http://hubpages.com/_ui1xcnn62gpk/hub/Let-Me-Tell-
Believers are to help each other in love; God desires we know Him, amen? He's coming soon. Can you imagine that God Himself came to us to shed His own blood for His creation, so that all who believe in Him will be made holy and inherit eternal life? That's absolutely amazing. USEURHEART :-)
Brie, that's an excellent hub and one which I will also bookmark, for it's an absolute answer for those detractors in the forum, and will save having to write all this again!
Many thanks, this hub will be very useful.
John
John, That makes me so happy to hear...I hope I can write more just like it!
Amen!
You are right on Sister, good scriptures. I would like to address your critic, SirDent. ALL Jews did not hate Jesus. The religious Jewish factions hated him. Why? Because he showed to the world their fake righteousness. Now, lets get something clear here. Thousands of Jews flocked to hear Jesus and be healed by him. Jealousy of the number of followers became an issue with the legalistic Pharisees and the Roman Empire because he was the voice of authority and that took something from them. You have to remember that all of the disciples were Jewish. So, all of the Jews did not kill Jesus, only the religious sector. This is the kind of statements that lead people to believe Jesus was and still is not today loved by Jews. Just like back then we see millions of Messianic Jews flocking to their Messiah, the blinders are being lifted. Jesus did not abandon who he was and become a Gentile,like so many of us in the West envision him. He came to give salvation to the Jew first, and we are living in a prophet time where we are seeing the falling away in the church and the rising of the Messianic Jews. I think a few blinders need to be lifted off the Christians, and yes Brie he is God come in the flesh and he will keep his covenant with the Jews. It's not all about Christians, so don't boast because we are only an engrafted branch, and we are seeing today the root being grafted back in.
Well, I am Jewish ...mothers mother :)
All kidding aside, thanks for the comments.
Thanks Brie. You might want to check out Spirituality.com on the web. The articles posted might clear up some abstractions...
What abstractions?
True Truthseeker you are nothing like your name implies...Don't bother trying to use my hub to send out heretical teachings, your comments will be deleted. I will write a hub about Jehovah Witnesses in the near future, feel free to read it if you like but I will not allow heretical teaching on my hub. The article was very clear, the Bible is God's word and Jesus is God...which the scripture clearly makes known. Jesus said the gates of hell will not overrun his church so don't use that tired old saying that some will abandon the faith in order to give an excuse for your heretical church. If you choose to reject the teaching that is your prerogative but you do so at your own demise.
SO, now I understand why True Truthseeker has been responding strangely on my hubs, too. S/he has obviously been hiding behind his/her true colors...Jehovah's Witnesses? Thank you for letting me know, sister Brie. I know s/he quotes the Bible in very lengthy comments without getting to a point, yet seems hostile in his/her intentions. Now I understand. God bless you for standing on holy ground and rebuking this false teacher.
Great hub Brie! 100% agree.
For those who question, look up "Holy Trinity". Maybe that will help you understand how "The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" are one and the same.
God never promised that you will understand everything. There are some things our frail minds cannot fathom. That is why it is called "Faith".
Thanks for the hub Brie!
You're welcome JD. Uno it's one thing for someone to have a legitimate question and it's quite another to try and use someone elses hub for their own agenda.
Thanks 50 year old white guy, now if we can just get on the same page regarding 911!
True Truthseeker, which YOU ARE NOT! You are wasting your time with your Jehovah Witness LIES. They will not be published on my HUB! COMPREHEND?
@SirDent
I have a rebuttal to your statements.
1) Brie made the disclaimer "at best" Jews think Jesus was a nice guy. "At best" alludes to that there are many negative Jewish opinions of Jesus.
2) She used present tense of what modern day Jews think of Jesus. Thus, your use of past tense of ancient Jews is misplaced....and on a side note not all ancient Jews in Jesus's time wanted Jesus dead. Jesus was a Jew as were his apostles , followers, and parents.
That's right oliarguello! Thanks for commenting.
The Buddhist view on Jesus: That he was a Bodhisattva - an enlightened master choosing to stay on earth from reincarnation to reincarnation to save humanity from suffering.
All the Christian views on Jesus seem to me to be worthwhile though... just bugs me that "Christianity" has so little emphasis on Christ himself, rather so much instead on the church and its politics. I do however see the value in spending some time in Bible study... something I'd like to take at college someday... it is a very good book, after all, at least.
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In Revelations 14:1-4 it states that only 144,000 men will be called to Heaven. And these 144,000 are all virgins (not defiled by women). In Revelations 7, it says these 144,000 men are all Jews, 12,000 each from the 12 tribes of Israel.
From these passages, I presume that all women or men that have had children are all destined for Hell and that only 144,000 gay Jewish men will go to Heaven.
Does this mean that
Obadiah...it doesn't say that, either you know that or you are ignorant.
Please do not direct people to outside emails.
To state that the Jews thought Yahshua was a nice guy and that's all, is wrong.
Yahshua (Jesus to you) went to the Jews and many accepted him
The Twelve Disciples/Apostles (Jews) accepted him and they went to many Jews that accepted their testimony.
Many many Jews accepted Yahshua. The Gentiles didn't hear of Yahshua's testimony until much later. There are many Gentiles who don't believe and there are many Jews who don't. Yahshua didn't fight the ones that had Him crucified because they filled the prophecy.
John 8:31
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
John 2:23
"Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did"
John 4:39
And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.
John 4:41
And many more believed because of his own word;
John 8:30
As he spake these words, many believed on him.
John 10:42
And many believed on him there.
John 11:45
Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him
John 12:11
Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus.
I'm talking about modern Jews Deborah.
My husband is Jewish. Born in Israel. We go to a Messianic Jewish church. I know hundreds of Hebrews that accept Yahshua.
That's great, so do I, I am referring to the thousands of Jews that are not messianic.
Don't mean to keep on but look at all the Gentiles that aren't
While that is true, I guess I just didn't think to include pagans as a major group. As for nominal Christians that is their stance but the doctrine itself still proclaims Christ as the Son of God.
As i read in the bible and accuratly understand it,i know for a fact that Jesus is not GOD,but he is the son of GOD,just like adam was GODs son.To many facts in the bible prove that.For instance,GOD can not lie and he can not die.Te dead cant do nothing but stay dead.Has no man or flesh ever seen GOD (Jehovah or Yahweh) and yet,live to tell about it.He's to powerful for any flesh to see.All those time Jesus was praying who was he praying to,Himself?? I dont think so.He said a few times he is not greater than his father and that he did not come on earth on his own will or speak on his own will ,but that he came because of his fathers will and desire.Plus when jesus was baptise and came out of the water,john the baptist heard GOD voice from heaven saying "This is my son whom i approve of,Follow him"..He sent jesus to not just to preach his word,but to pay the ransom for mankind back to GOD to make up what adam lost for us and adam lost perfection,paridise and a proper relationship with GOD.So jesus made up that with his perfect sacrifice and people who have love,faith and the works(our actions and deeds) can benifit from has perfect body and blood.but only those who the JEhovah,Yahweh will and kiss the son,the only begotton son..Its more i have to say about JEsus and his role,but he aint GOD and in vision,john (jesus apostle) seen jesus standing next to GOD in heaven.You people need to face the facts in the scripture
Nikko you are terribly mistaken: There are 3 persons in the godhead, the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God and he was praying to his Father who also God otherwise because Jesus accepted worship he would be encouraging idol worship.
Though I agree with your premise, you really didn't misconstrue the notion that "Jews say he was (at best) a nice guy". Because you didn't clarify if you were referring "ancient" Jews or "modern-day" Jews. Your failure to specify which time-group led SirDent & Deborah to present their oppositions. Notice in professional writing such a specification would have be clearly written. Simple mistake that's all, right?
Also, until these Jesus-debates are preceded by a thorough examination of the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible, no general consensus of agreement about Jesus' Supreme divinity or mediocre divinity will be reached. I can prove any alleged Bible contradiction to not be be one (by using H & G texts) & turn any alleged truth into a supposed contradiction (by using English translations).
My point here--is God didn't commission His prophets & apostles to write His words in any other languages but Hebrew & Greek. Thus all the Jesus-debates stem from English translation interpretations. Try arguing His Godhood in Hebrew or Greek and the opposers will come out looking idiotic. So, yes, the Hebrew & Greek texts prove He is both the Son of...and is God, but, of course, not Father God.
and where exactly does the Old Testament say that Jesus is God? Maybe if you read it in English, you might find it as a result of mis-translation and manipulation. In original (in Hebrew) there's no such a nonsense. Judaism is a monotheistic religion and real Jews (religious or non-religious) would never give an honor of being a God to a person of flesh.
God is a supreme deity and He will never give his DNA to a person of Earth. He gave just a spirit (when he breath it into Adam's nostrils), so we got Him inside us.
Messiah will be a person of flesh, from Earthy Jewish parents, but he will be NOT a God, but God's word. This is what Old Testament say- Messiah will be "Word of God" from David line, with flesh-and-blood mother and father, and he is supposed to fulfill Messiah's deeds, from the first appearance, not from the second coming.
The history shows that there were many guys like Jesus and crucifixion was a normal Roman thing of those times (it's just that a story of Yehoshua (Jesus) got a continuation thanks to Paul)
In his time Jesus was not a representative of New religion (Christianity) as this came hundreds of years later and first christians were not Jews (as it was mistakenly stated), but Greeks and Romans. Jews of those times would rather die than except polytheism. I agree, the history shows that some Jews were converting under the brainwashing, as it continues nowadays as well.
My Grandma used to say "a converted Jew is worse than an anti-Semite".
Sorry for intruding into your discussion. I didn't intend to prove you anything (anyone if free to believe whatever he chooses), it's just my input, so that you know what regular Jews think about this matter.
Have a nice day everyone.
(Isa 9:6) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
I think the scripture speaks for itself!
aha! you didn't approve my last comment because it is oh so inconvenient for you hypocrites. But at least you yourself read it!
I didn't approve of it because it is ridiculous on its face.
then why were you afraid to publish it for others to decide if it is ridiculous, or just truthful?
You quoted KJV translation, I gave you a literary translation from Hebrew (my native language and the language of the Old Testament).
There is a major difference between those two.
Never say that it was from the Old Testament. From the New Testament- yes; in KJV translation (or rather mis-translation/manipulation)- yes. But not from the original TANACH.
Because I don't wish to argue with someone who says that none of the Old Testament was future based when there were all kinds of prophecies (some fulfilled some still waiting to be fulfilled) that were future tense.
I never said that "none of the Old Testament was future based". There's enough future prophesis in OT for years to come. I was talikng about that particular passage that you quated. Verbs of that passage are all in the past tense and I explaind to you what it reffered. If you knew Hebrew and could compare for yourself, you'd see what I meant.
Also, my intent was not to argue.
And, as I've said before, every one is free to choose what to believe and what to follow. It's our choice.
I do not know Hebrew but I know people that do and they would dispute your claim.
Just read your hub, good on you it was a great read. I agree with your post 100% well done. God bless you,
Skipper
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Vladimir Uhri Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago
Brie, great job, I had to bookmark it. Thanks.