September 11 - A day that will live in Infamy
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Why I believe 911 was an inside job.
For a long time now I have known that September 11 was a date that our country attacked it's own citizens. When I first found this out to say I was stunned would be an understatement. For months I was in a daze, unable to accept what I had discovered. Even now living with this knowledge (and even more) is a difficult burden to bear. In fact, prior to September 11 I would now consider myself an innocent. I was ignorant of the evils our country was capable of, everything changed for me on that day, everything. Consequently, I have done extensive research on this and have become immersed in it. I erroneously assumed that everyone knew what I knew. Recently I came across several people who still believed that September 11 was a day when we were attacked by extremist Muslims from some far off country, because of this I decided to list the reasons why I believe 9/11 was an inside job. Here are a few of the reasons:
- Steel doesn't' burn: Steel will warp or melt but it doesn't burn and fire does not turn steel into dust. Explosives turn steel into dust.
- World Trade Center 7 was NOT hit by a plane and yet it imploded into it's own foot print.
- Fire would not have thrown huge chunks of metal into neighboring buildings.
- Eye-witness accounts testify to explosions throughout the building and before the planes struck.
- There is no difference between controlled demolition videos and the 9/11 videos.
- The buildings fell at near free fall speed (the rate an object drops through air) in 10 seconds, which would necessitate no resistance from the floors below. In other words, those floors had to have been blown out so that there would be no resistance.
- The BBC news reported that World Trade Center 7 would come down before it came down.
- The result was not a pancake collapse, if there had been a pancake collapse there would have been debris big enough to identify instead of dust.
- I heard eye-witness testimony from William Rodriquez and others that there was a huge explosion in the sub-level of the basement BEFORE the planes hit. I heard him personally in New York.
- The windows were blown out in the lobby BEFORE the planes hit.
- Molten Metal is a result of the use of Thermite. Molten metal was rampant in the rubble. Thermite would have had to have been put in the building it is not part of building materials.
- Controlled demolitionists use shape charges to bring down a building, there were many instances of steel beams sliced in a diagonal way just like a shape charge would do.
- Silverstein, who owned World Trade 7, said to “pull” the building which means to demolish it. He collected over 8 billion dollars from a 14 million dollar investment. There is NO WAY you can “pull” a building without prior arrangements with explosives. World Trade 7 housed offices for the CIA, Secret Service and others. Damage to buildings that were closer to World Trade buildings 1 and 2 were were far worse and those buildings were closer yet World Trade 7 collapsed.
- There is NO WAY that they could have wired building 7 in order to demolish it in a few minutes, that building had to have been wired BEFORE 911.
- There were thousands of put orders shorting the airline stocks of the planes involved, these put options were never collected.
- Cell phones had an extremely low accuracy rate (for calls connected) in 2001 in airplanes.
- There are no black boxes for any of the planes
- There are no photos of a plane hitting the pentagon even though there were myriads of cameras 24/7 on that building.
- There was no wreckage of a plane in the pentagon, it was more than likely a missile.
- There was no wreckage of a plane going down in Pennsylvania, they shot it down. The gouge in the ground was there BEFORE 9/11.
- Over 1400 melted cars that were up to one mile away from ground zero
- Congressional testimony stating that Vice-President had the military stand down when he could have easily shot down at least one or two of the planes.
- BBC and CNN both said that Building 7 collapsed before it did!
- Finally, we've done it before google U.S.S. Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin.
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Do you know Marxism goal is destruction and chaos before taking over? It really does not matter what we call it, still is the same evil spirit. In movies all could be assembled good or bad. I seen the movie "Conspiration" and critically thinking I do not believe all things. Movies have tendency to hate America.
Also many terrorists were trained in Soviet Union and know Russian language. The fact is I believe that planes hit the towers. Insider or outsider does not matter to me.
You can file this under; "If You keep listening to something long enough, you are bound to believe that it's true"
majicat, are you referring to the government provided explanation or to the truther explanation?
Bdazzler: How could Muslim Jhihadists gain access to the buildings to put explosives in the? The security agency that controlled the buildings was headed up by George Bushes brother. They used Bin Laden and the rest as scapegoats. Bush was very close to the Bin Ladens...do your research.
Vladimir: I think it matters because we have spent human lives on 2 wars that were a direct result of the lies that the government has told us. Also, if we don't find out who did it they can easily do it again.
If Brie Hoffman is correct in her comments about 9/11 then WE ALL should be very afraid, VERY! Because what that means is that there are people in our Government that use human lives as nothing more than a way to make a buck or to ramp-up their agenda--whatever that might be. If she is wrong--and the planes did hit the building causing it to topple (highly unlikely like she points out) then WE still have a VERY big problem--SECURITY! Either way you cut it--many people died--it would be terrible to think that they died because of an "Insider Job", but I wouldn't put it past our Government--I wouldn't put it past a greedy Owner to collect a huge sum of money, while sacrificing all those hard working people--as well as the Fire fighter's and other good people of our Nation that sacrificed their lives to try and help those in need. If Brie is right we should start thinking of a way to bring our Government to justice--I have some suggestions--I hope you all have some to, I'd like to read them on my opinions page at: www.thegreencity1.com/your_opinion_counts.html
DJ
Again I agree on most of your research Brie, and yes the Bush family is very close to the Bin Ladens.
blake4d, thanks for commenting
Hi Brie!
Don't think I'm a big fan of Bush Sr. ... 'cuz I'm not! W was just "OK" ... some good, some bad ... Unfortunately on the research side, I can't find any sources that I truly trust. So ... I will simply say that I think that there is a conspiracy, I just don't can't tell who all is in it.
BDazzler, Did you watch the videos?
Yes, I had seen them before ... and I've watched rebuttal videos and further rebuttal of those videos.
They absolutely show that the WTC collapse was a controlled demolition. But the "who knew what and when" basically came down to "he said/they said/she said" etc.
I can tell pretty much from observation "what" happened, but who and why ... that I can only speculate at. After that it comes down to who you believe. And I don't know anybody well enough to believe them over another.
"Insiders" ... yes ... but which ones? Don't know.
Have you watched the Aaron Russo interview on "From Freedom to Fascism"? He says in that interview that when he was friends with David Rockefeller that he told him years before that this would happen. That is enough for me. Personally, I believe that there is a small group of people who run the world..possibly the Council of 300 made up of the top Illuminati. They have the money, the power and the motive.
Great Article Brie. We talked about the Oklahoma City Bombing in another hub recently and I can tell you that the Murrah building has many similar circumstances. For example you mention in this hub the type of explosive used on the steel columns. It was the same way in Oklahoma City. 2000 pounds of cow poo does not produce the right kind of shock wave to cut steel beams in half. Timothy McVeigh did not blow up the Murrah building with a 2000 pound cow pie.
As for the WTC I don't know who - but I believe I know why and Iran is next on the list.
America needed a reason to invade Iraq. Oil was not the primary reason, merely a convenient perk. I suspect the real reason was to displace a government that wanted to remain free and independant of the One World Government plan. Therefore, we went in and tossed out Saddam and put in a government that would sign on to the UN and its New World Order plan. Iran is next along with a few other dirty little dictators who won't sign on.
I am torn right now. Our brothers and sisters in arms are hero's fighting these wars, but they believe they fight for God and Country, but what if they are actually fighting for no god, the dissolution of country and the ushering in of the one world order system?
Would you like your 666 ID chip in your forehead or your hand?
- Harlan
Unfortunately they are fighting for the New World Order, no doubt about it. Sad sad state of affairs. It's one of the reasons that I am so against anyone going into the military. Not only for those reasons but there is a lot more going on there too. I couldn't find the ones I am looking for..google Kay Griggs Interviews.
No, that one I did not see.
Brie, Brie, Brie,
The more of your hubs that I read, the more credibility you lose. I have seen all of these videos before, and the rebuttal videos as well. What I haven't seen is PROOF. There are an awful lot of claims, and he said, she saids, but no proof.
With a history in physics, I can tell you that those buildings absolutely fell the way I would have expected them to. The amount of energy in a 767 hitting the side of a building is amazing. Energy is basically transferred in 2 ways. Heat, or motion. The heat from just the energy transferred from the collision was enough to cause the buildings to collapse, let alone, full tanks of jet fuel.
Now, I DO believe that the military shot down flight 93 over PA. We knew that the passengers were lost either way, so we brought it down in a sparsely populated area, way short of its target.
Bring me actual proof, not claims of proof. Then, and only then, may I believe the truthers. Until then, all the actual evidence points towards Muslim extremists being the only conspiracy at play that day.
I guess you think that building 7 just collapsed due to fire too?
Yes Brie, I do. Fire, along with the structural damage the building suffered after being hit by debris from the collapse of the north tower. Brie, that building was on fire all day long! They couldn't put the fire out. Firefighters reported a bulge on the buildings exterior hours before it came down. That is a sign of structural failure.
Look, I understand that people find it hard to believe that all that damage could be brought on by 2 planes striking 2 different buildings. But they just don't understand physics.
What I really believe is that most truthers find it both hard to believe, and hard to accept the fact that the terrorists could bring us to our knees so easily, so they look for a more sinister excuse. I guess it's a natural response.
Please stop spreading these falsehoods, and speculation. It is cheapening the deaths of those innocents who lost their lives that day.
We Americans do love a conspiracy though. So I would suggest you spend more time and energy in stopping the real conspiracies, like the selling of our government to lobbyists and large corporations. It amazes me how we are not up in arms about that!
No, you are cheapening the deaths of the people that were killed and putting others at risk by your unfounded beliefs. I'm beginning to think you work for the government. Why don't you look look at all the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth, maybe then you will see the light.
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT THE STORY THE GOVERNMENT GAVE US IS THE TRUTH? WHERE'S YOUR PROOF?
Physics is my proof. My eyes are my proof. I truly believe that if there wasn't live coverage of those planes hitting the buildings, you would claim that there were no planes at all!
When are you planning on writing about Bigfoot?
That's no answer at all. I have shown first hand eye-witnesses that experienced the bombs BEFORE the planes hit. I heard one witness myself and he told even more. There are many physics professors that disagree with you and many more architects and engineers.
Your own eyes can see that those buildings were blown up. I have to believe you are willingly ignorant and your ignorance puts everyone at risk because they will do it again.
50 year old white guy. there is absolutely no way that building 7 was anything other than a controlled demilition and for a building that is 25 storeys high it would take at least a couple of weeks to setup the charges to take it down. building 7 would be the biggest ever building to be taken down this way and would have taken at least a month to prepare, this was set up well in advance of the day physics or no physics.
That is terrible incident. I don't want it happen with us. We have to be careful with anything around us. I hope the best for us.
Unfortunately I think it will happen again...to many people are willfully ignorant.
And too many people look to the wrong places for answers.
You are wrong. See your point Number 1. They built the WTC the same way they build light weight rail cars. They fold up like a accordion just like those towers did.
Also if you did research on this subject, What were the FBI doing at the time? Clue: It was on 60 minutes.
Did you see the video of the people who said that there were explosions in the buildings and Wm Rodriguez said that there were bombs in the basement that went off BEFORE the planes hit. You tell me how that works?
Brie, a very nice hub. And yes this was a conspiracy and do you know why was the Twin Towers blown ? The twin towers resemble to 2 poles Joachim and Boas (Pillars of King Solomon's Temple), and it was a celtic ritual, where these two poles were blown along with blowing one side of a STAR (Pentagon), which is a sign of ISIS being freed of two poles and the Arrival !!! The arrival of Anti Christ !! Do you know Bin Laden is a former CIA agent in Afghanistan ? Who was Deployed in early 80's for cold war against Russia !! The world has been ridden of many many terrorists. So why is Osama still at large? Why dont US Marine's Night Vision Goggles, and hi tech army gadgets work in open plains of Afghanistan? Many infamous and notorious criminals and terrorists have been assasinated, killed or bombed and we read, but except Osama !! Brie...its time to open up our eyes....its time we understand NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM "NEW SECULAR/WORLD ORDER". Who were the financiers of Hitler ? Who backed up their support on WWII Holocaust, do you know ? Read my hub: JEWISH HOLOCAUST...u'll have some clear picture.
Further check this video link:
buraq: The only reason I have not deleted your comment is because I would like to address the antisemitism. Jews were no more responsible for 9/11 than Muslims. The New World Order is made up of every kind of person but when boiled down is really Satanic. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rockefeller, none of those people are Jews and they all had their part. I really hate it when people try to blame the Jews for 9/11, they have been blamed enough in history and have suffered for it. Your Muslim faith is not true...see my other Hubs about that.
Brie...i think you got the wrong message, maybe i wasnt able to explain you properly. I never mentioned any Jew, nor any particular religion. I was highlighting Conspiracies, and you are not only the one who criticize Islam, whole European community do criticize Islam, nothing new in it. And you know many true Jewish believers were exterminated in WWII just coz these Rockfeller and Rothschild could control Israel !!! They control 80% of ISRAEL.
Maybe so, but they control just as much of the U.S.! And the people in control of Islamic countries are evil too, beheading people and stoning 16 year old women. Now what?
Well, its no more use talking to you now, i just wanted to point out the conspiracy behind 9-11. And at the time of arrival of Anti Christ, there will be many muslims too, who will fall in Darkness and support him. So i dun care about Islamic Countries, or Christian or Jewish country as they have their own agenda. And its the time to be self conscious and stick to the true teachings. U know the meaning of MUSLIM ? Find the meaning and you'll know what it is, and you still criticize.
I criticize it because it is a lie and teaches that Jesus was NOT God. In fact, you just inspired me to do a new hub titled, Jesus, Is He God?
Yeah Brie, I saw the videos of the fireman in the ground floor hoping the elevators would return the firefighter from the upper floors. No bombs.
You are blind and willfully ignorant...did you watch the videos at the end of the hub?
The airplanes contain a ton of fuel that's your fire. All the steel remained on site.
There were myriads of eye-witnesses that said there were bombs in the building that went off before the planes hit in the basements.
Who are these people? And where were they during 9-11?
They were working in the buildings on 9/11.
Names?
William Rodriguez for one. I don't know the others off the top of my head.
Brie, don't let anyone tell you that you're not in the right. So many skeptics just live in fear for what they don't want to believe. The physics are on your side here. Like this is our country's first act of greedy conspiracy?
Also, I thought I'd say I admire your patience with all these...lets call them "quirky" folks out there. You go, girl!!
Thanks jroach96, it's hard sometimes, I appreciate the comments.
if anyone believes that 2 tubes of aluminium with a lorry load of liquid parrafin each brought down the twin towers, well God grant you some common sense quick. its souls satan is after and he is doin a great job all over the world.
Exactly, donkey 35! The buildings were designed to take the impact of jets! Wake up everyone! You've been duped!!
Although I absolutely agree with your thought process and political ideas, like myself, I fear that the focus on all of that is wrong, even when you are right, can lead you to an emotional place that is counterproductive to your well being. That is why I like the idea of jumping in my van or pick-up truck, putting on some great music, and heading to the most beautiful areas of the Country. The highway and open spaces are always therapeutic and being in a beautiful environment never hurts. I love being around mountains and water. Sometimes the thought of living in an RV is very appealing. No property taxes, mortgages, fluctuating markets, endless variety, freedom from code enforcement, and nosy neighbors, how much better can that be?
Take the Highway (The Marshall Tucker Band)
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it was a lie
Just found this one Brie..
I won't comment on all your related hubs... I'll just say here that I'm glad to meet another human who is actually awake....
Go girl, you are very brave. Don't let them wear you down.
In closing I think you should think about re locating. I will be out of NA as soon as I can be. Early next year at the latest...
I do think about it, I think about it every day. Thanks for the comments.
Brie,
This is one subject I absolutely hate to talk about, I do not like being reminded of it nor do I like even the thought. I lost a very dear friend of mine who I knew when he was only 18 years old and at the time he had always mention how he wanted to be a fireman paramedic, his name wa Ricardo Quinn he was off duty and when he heard what happened he rushed to the towers and was killed. This event left me with restless nights and was not able to sleep for months...all i DID WAS GET UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LOOKING FOR THE KILLING OF Osama
I must say I became a crazed person for awhile... I hated this event because it was in what I call my heart City for I was raised in NYC it is a place which is in my blood that is all I know....and in my heart it is my mother city. I can be anywhere in the world however NYC is in me for life.Those events have changed my life completely, and I hate to talk about it or even commemurate the event itself, The word aniversarie is one word that has always puzzled me me when it comes to events like this and others. For to me annivesirie means something possitive not tragedy.
Hi Brie. Voted up and interesting. Excellent hub.
I'd like to make a few observations about conspiracy theories. First, if someone calls you a conspiracy theorist, even supposedly educated people consider that accusation to be a conversation-stopper.
Second, all of the explanations for the tragic events of 911 are conspiracy theories--including the official story. Why? Because nobody in their right mind believes that the 911 attacks could have been pulled off by a single person. Several people actively collaborated. To filk an old saying: Two is company, and three is a conspiracy.
One more small coincidence: On 9-10-01, Cheney announced that something on the order of 1 trillion USD in military funding could not be accounted for. In normal times, that scandal would have created a shit-storm. (Pardon my French.) But that story was quickly eclipsed the following day.
Thanks Larry, I agree with everything you mentioned.
BDazzler 2 years ago
I believe there is more to the WTC bombing than meets the eye, because of much of what you said ... but I think the "insiders" were still foreign Jihadists and fifth column Muslim-Americans.
Your evidence shows conclusively that the WTC was deliberately destroyed by more than just airplanes.
However, It does not show who did it. It also does not show why. Was there a conspiracy? Yes! Were elements of our government involved? Maybe. Was it orchestrated by Jihads? Probably.